tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post7781344363787582337..comments2023-10-10T20:43:00.969-04:00Comments on Books and Chocolate: The Good Soldier Svejk by Jaroslav HasekKaren K.http://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-91197632256369187802018-03-18T00:29:41.902-04:002018-03-18T00:29:41.902-04:00The review written by S. Wreck regarding the Pengu...The review written by S. Wreck regarding the Penguin Classics edition of the same Cecil Parrott's translation seems to confirm what the author of the newest translation titled "The Fateful Adventures of the Good Soldier Švejk During the World War" wrote in the Jacket magazine in 2010:<br /><br />I don’t know what his standing is in the eyes of modern theoreticians of translation, but the German writer Rudolf Pannwitz believed, as he wrote in his Die Krisis der europaischen Kultur (The Crisis of the European Culture) that “The basic error of the translator is that he preserves the state in which his own language happens to be instead of allowing his language to be powerfully affected by the foreign tongue. Particularly when translating from a language very remote from his own … ” Ms. Woods, [a reviewer of a later translation] conceded that “Cecil Parrott… deliberately anglicized the novel” which is the direction opposite to the course suggested by Rudolf Pannwitz. Indeed, Sir Cecil wrote in his Note On The Translation: “If the reader finds a certain monotony [as this reader did] in the words chosen by the translator I hope he will realize that the bandsman has to operate within the limits of his instrument.” The question is whether the common instrument of the English language is as limited as Sir Cecil’s personal instrument of his Czech or even his English. Not being aware of Sir Cecil’s admission of “certain monotony” I expressed my own impression this way: “What is stunning is the poverty and one-dimensional lexical register of the translator’s mother tongue. The translation shows traces of two authors, an Englishman and a Czech. A Czech who, for example, chooses the wrong English equivalents, and an Englishman who does not know it. [The word “kůlna” is rendered as “barn” instead of “shed”, “háj” as “wood” instead of “grove”, “loupež” as “larceny” instead of “robbery”, “oslové” as “mules” instead of “asses”, etc.] In addition, the translation is made from an erroneous point of view.” On the point of his English, Jasper Parrott, Sir Cecil’s son recently wrote of his father’s labors: “He spent therefore many hours savouring and trying out all sorts of different vulgarities and even obscenities a curious occupation for someone who was otherwise highly disapproving of the lazy argot of the times.” Nevertheless, one indication that Sir Cecil ultimately failed in rendering the “lazy argot” is that the quintessential English term of abuse, “bastard” and the adjective “bloody” are used and misused in his version incredibly too often. In Part II, for example, he used the word “bastard” to render into English such varied words (my, sometimes multiple renditions in parentheses) as “chlap” (sonofagun, guy, man), “kluk” (boy), “podlci” (moral degenerates), “lotry” (crooks), “sběř” (pack of rabble) and “pahejl” (stumpfoot). Once he even substituted “bastard” for “he”, once added “bastards” after “Hungarian” and “bloody ass” in front of “such as Lieutenant Dub” just for good measure.Zenny K. Sadlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03044305400942549253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-2962850330508627742014-01-20T10:08:58.208-05:002014-01-20T10:08:58.208-05:00You say "Joseph Heller may have been influenc...You say "Joseph Heller may have been influenced by Svejk"? I heard from a man who remembered it that long time ago Heller publicly denied having read the book. By the same token, he told a Czech writer (who mentions it in his memoir) that<br />if it weren’t for his having read The Good Soldier Švejk he would never had written Catch-22. You might be interested to know that there is a band of svejkologists who keep finding new information about Jaroslav Hašek and his creation, the Good Soldier Švejk. Lots of information in English has been put together in Norway, of all places: http://honsi.org/literature/svejk/?page=1&lang=en. The owner of the web site, Jomar Hønsi, followed in the footsteps of Jaroslav Hašek on his anabasis from Prague to the borders of Mongolia in 2010. My own website, SvejkCentral.com, is a repository of my discoveries of Švejk-related items on the Internet which I made during the process of creating the new, "Chicago" translation of Švejk, featured at the zenny.com web site.Zennyhttp://svejkcentral.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-57785449721575129082013-09-22T11:18:53.642-04:002013-09-22T11:18:53.642-04:00Yossarian spent the war in Italy when he wasn'...Yossarian spent the war in Italy when he wasn't in his bomber flying over the country side. <br /><br />This books sounds like fun to me. People don't know how funny Eastern European literature is. If you found this funny, you might really enjoy Dead Souls. Gogol is also very funny, but it's another unfinished classic. <br /><br />But, you should go ahead and give your copy of The Jungle away. Seriously, just give it away. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906212382849291562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-6100561860040817332013-09-17T14:04:54.209-04:002013-09-17T14:04:54.209-04:00I read Svejk just a few months ago! I also found ...I read Svejk just a few months ago! I also found it to be a fun, if long, read. A very 'guy' kind of book with all the soldier humor and whatnot. I am another Master and Margarita fan, and I read Anna Karenina in January, which was fantastic. If you want something dauntingly long, modern, and interesting, I really liked Solzhenitsyn's In the First Circle.<br /><br />WWI is so complex and depressing. Guns of August is a good book though, and so is another very short one by the same author, The Zimmerman Letter, which explains how the US came in to the war.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14247515387599954817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-38738362146269930382013-08-26T08:50:56.831-04:002013-08-26T08:50:56.831-04:00Yes, you put it a bit better there than I could ex...Yes, you put it a bit better there than I could express myself. I just knew my dad always loved this book because he could relate to so much because of the experience of stupid things that took place in the Soviet army.<br /><br />Tallinn is beautiful! But I would advise for first timers to stick to the tourist regions; other districts have their beauty too, but it may be not the kind that everyone enjoys :) <br /><br />By the way, I agree with the previous commenter up there, The Master and Margarita is absolutely wonderful novel, I've read it three times and can't get enough.Rivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04561804353287763337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-70830300357764540152013-08-25T21:41:33.408-04:002013-08-25T21:41:33.408-04:00I took European history in college and I still hav...I took European history in college and I still have a hard time making sense of WWI. I do have a book called The Guns of August which is supposed to be excellent. The whole thing sounds so depressing, though. Karen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-13844403545181520802013-08-25T21:40:34.352-04:002013-08-25T21:40:34.352-04:00Well, Svejk was a lot of episodes, but I mostly re...Well, Svejk was a lot of episodes, but I mostly read it in bits in pieces over about a month, so it wasn't too hard to follow, there are only a few characters other than Svejk that continue through the whole story, luckily.<br /><br />I'm also kind of intimidated by Moby Dick, and i didn't even know about the whale digressions! I might skim some of those parts. I've heard Les Miserables has a lot of digressions about France and Paris, even whole chapters about the Parisian sewers, though people have told me they're interesting.<br /><br />I'm kind of interested in reading Crime and Punishment, especially since Edward Snowden's lawyer gave him a copy to read while he was holed up the Moscow Airport bathroom. The iron was not lost on me. Karen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-56836142490329367162013-08-25T21:36:02.520-04:002013-08-25T21:36:02.520-04:00If you like comic ironic characters, you will prob...If you like comic ironic characters, you will probably love this. I'm not sure if it gives so much insight into Czech culture, but definitely the Eastern European side of WWI. It was interesting, definitely!Karen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-35827607671172388432013-08-25T15:20:15.573-04:002013-08-25T15:20:15.573-04:00Congratulations on finishing! I have never heard ...Congratulations on finishing! I have never heard of this book before, and I'm wondering why not! The more I learn about the Great War, the more I'm fascinated with it, and seeing the war from this point of view would be fascinating.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17782561487396697870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-84230690078020977662013-08-25T12:10:31.704-04:002013-08-25T12:10:31.704-04:00I admire your stamina to get through a book this l...I admire your stamina to get through a book this long that is essentially a collection of fragmentary episodes. <br />Moby Dick doesn't appeal to me at all - particularly when I learned that it contains very long digressions on the eating/mating patterns of whales that he more or less copied from some natural history books. Not my idea of literature frankly. <br />As for the Russians, they do sound a little daunting but some are easier to get to grips with than others. Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment is well worth reading.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05415811109852633395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-56935934966775122332013-08-25T11:30:59.921-04:002013-08-25T11:30:59.921-04:00I can't believe I didn't mention The Maste...I can't believe I didn't mention The Master and Margarita. It is stupendous! One of the best novels I have ever read, spanning continents, and ages. I remember reading that Bulgakov ran out of paper while writing the book, and he scribbled portions of the novel on the wall of his room. Reading the book, it seemed possible that the author of such an epic could possibly do that. . . .Samraghnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08929070539396800317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-30781640793214512602013-08-25T09:14:42.203-04:002013-08-25T09:14:42.203-04:00I don't think the humor in Svejk is directed a...I don't think the humor in Svejk is directed at any particular country, I think it could be universally applied to any army or large organization with a lot of bureaucracy. But I can definitely see why he's popular in the post-Soviet era, especially in Europe. <br /><br />I have heard that Tallinn is absolutely beautiful, my brother used to travel to Finland on business and would usually stay a few extra days and tour around. He went to most of the Eastern European countries and he especially liked Estonia. I'd love to go someday!Karen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-64922879459888016552013-08-25T09:11:49.968-04:002013-08-25T09:11:49.968-04:00I do want to read at least one Russian by the end ...I do want to read at least one Russian by the end of the year -- I want to finish the Back to the Classics Challenge and I'm still missing that category. It will probably be Dead Souls or possibly The Master and Margarita. I also have some short stories by Chekhov I've never finished. Karen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-83626902076149847582013-08-25T09:10:04.773-04:002013-08-25T09:10:04.773-04:00I have never heard of this book, but it sounds lik...I have never heard of this book, but it sounds like just the kind of book I am attracted to. I love comic, ironic characters. And I also love books that give me insight into the history of places I know little about -- and that includes the Czech Republic. I am adding this to my "Next 50 Classics" list :)Col (Col Reads)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03136923310179832040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-72351569420006981922013-08-25T03:52:45.436-04:002013-08-25T03:52:45.436-04:00I have Svejk on my bookshelf, but I've always ...I have Svejk on my bookshelf, but I've always been a bit intimidated by it. I think it's the kind of book that people with certain history will enjoy a lot more than others. My father served in Soviet army, and he LOVES this book (I am originally from a post Soviet country myself). I am not sure that I would enjoy Svejk as much as him, so I've been postponing the book for a long time now :) But Svejk is a very popular character around here, in Tallinn we had a Svejk-inspired pub as well, where we went regularly during our uni years... Good times :) Rivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04561804353287763337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8027299943447728658.post-57289797488397988602013-08-25T01:29:42.096-04:002013-08-25T01:29:42.096-04:00Thank you for the thoughtful review. I have the ve...Thank you for the thoughtful review. I have the very same copy of 'The Good Soldier Svejk', but I'm afraid it's been roosting unread in my shelf for too long. Your post has prompted me to take it out, dust it, and peruse the Josef Lada illustrations.<br /><br />In my turn, I'd suggest some Gogol, if you're in the mood for some Russian. 'Dead Souls' perhaps? It's a classic. If not, I cannot recommend 'To the Lighthouse' enough.Samraghnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08929070539396800317noreply@blogger.com